Comments on: Why do we have Anti-Terrorist Hotline in Cardiff? (More poster madness.)

By: Mei

Mei — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:28:36 +0000

The Mayor Of London ghas also complained about a poster in this series to the ASA!

https://s.p10.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/mol/2009/03/met-police-propaganda-poster-m.html

By: Mei

Mei — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:49:04 +0000

I’ve just submitted a complaint to the Advertising Standards Authority on the grounds that the text of the advert is misleading.

http://www.asa.org.uk

By: Mei

Mei — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:30:32 +0000

There’s a massive version of that poster near where I live, by the railbridge and the football ground.

I think it’s totally, totally disgusting. Whoever put that poster there (the government?) is lying to serve their own agenda. Get everyone scared of terrorist bogeymen so they can whittle away further at our rights and freedoms.

The poster says “These chemicals won’t be used in a bomb because a neighbour reported”, but the ‘chemicals’ in the photo were never going to be used for a bomb because the photo is a FAKE:

- who would leave evidence of terrorism not only in their own bin but right at the top, sticking out at a jaunty angle?

- not so obvious on the web, but in poster form the background has been dropped out of focus using a wide aperture for an artistic look and to focus attention on the bin. Not the sort of thing you’d do if you were taking a photo for evidence (where you’d want the subject and contecx to be as clear as possible) but certainly plays on the emotions

- and that out of focus background allows the (skilled, manipulative) photographer to place a woman and a baby in the scene without having them identifiable. How long did he wait for a mother and baby to happen along, to evocatively contrast with the hazard warnings on the chemical bottles and to remind us that “evil terrorists kill innocent people, like say, innocent mothers and babies”? Or are they models?

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Are adverts allowed to straight out lie?
And it’s such a stupid, obvious lie. I just hope people aren’t stupid enough to fall for it.

By: PC

PC — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:38:55 +0000

Anyway as I was saying…
A Blackwood man was arrested under the terrorism act last week…
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/04/06/blackwood-man-arrested-under-terrorism-act-91466-23326699/

…and a Preston man was arrested this week after explosives components were found during a police search in Lancashire.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090409/tuk-man-arrested-after-explosives-found-6323e80.html

However Cardiff is safe in the hands of Captain Jack.

By: Inders

Inders — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:03:33 +0000

Unfortunately Carlos, I know a little about this.

Operation Contest is a nationwide police operation against terrorism concentrating on the below.

To Prevent
To Protect
To Prepare
To Pursue

Theres massive amounts of public funds going into this project especially under the prevention agenda. Nationally known as preventing violent extremism (PVE)which is where millions of pounds are being put into community led projects (the ones who are happy to take the cash to promote police agendas, anyway).

There are also officers being recruited for every Operational Command Unit in England and Wales into the hilariously named CTU.

By: Martin

Martin — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:23:43 +0000

PC does have a point in the ‘it’s as likely here as anywhere’ line (or more accurately, as unlikely here as anywhere). But more generally what do these posters hope to achieve? There seems to be no logical motive apart from the ulterior one of making us feel afraid as part of a political campaign. If so, did they really sit down and say this out loud to each other? They can’t have any effect on actual policing. I know many terrorists are not masterminds, but even so if I have a collection of things labelled ‘My First Bomb Making Kit’ I’d at least put it at the bottom of my bin (actually they wouldn’t take that bin away – lid won’t close – that’s how we’ll catch ‘em!). Or if I wanted to photograph CCTV cameras I wouldn’t do it wearing my ‘I’m a terrorist’ outfit, I might you know, disguise my activity somehow.
Anyway, no-one would attack Cardiff – we have Torchwood.

By: Carl Morris

Carl Morris — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:54:13 +0000

Claire, do you have a link to details about the Queen Street incident you're referring to? Did "intelligence" have anything to do with this recent anti-terror raid? That was also in Grangetown, about 15 minutes on foot from the poster site. I'm pretty sure it was before the poster appeared. But still, not nice for the family involved.

By: Claire

Claire — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:53:36 +0000

have to say, I agree with PC…there was a bombscare a few years ago in Cardiff Queen Street on a sunny sunday – the street was blocked off for ages.

If ‘they’ know something we don’t – fine- that’s what ‘they’ are paid for and why we have intelligence services.

Not sure if a special hotline is needed – hopefully common sense would prevail and people would call the police.

By: Richard John

Richard John — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:32:51 +0000

Perhaps the intelligence is based on high peroxide purchase levels… have you seen St. Mary’s Street’s clientele lately?

By: Anna

Anna — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:26:10 +0000

I think that it’s incredibly unlikely that this hotline would help to prevent an act of terrorism. I just can’t think of a reasonable scenario where that would happen. I also doubt very much that anyone has a reason for assuming that Cardiff is a terrorist target.

It’s essentially just paranoia. Say it with me, people: If we turn against each other, the terrorists win!