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	<title>Comments on: Hacking or faking a wiki history for good purposes</title>
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		<title>By: Dafydd Tomos</title>
		<link>http://quixoticquisling.com/2009/10/hacking-or-faking-a-wiki-history-for-good-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-7353</link>
		<dc:creator>Dafydd Tomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read recently that junk DNA may just be an inactive archive copy from previous genomes. Maybe a bit more like disk fragmentation than revisions. It may be like the code of some programmers I know, where a function is copied, renamed and tweaked slightly. Repeat for several billion iterations...

I&#039;ve always liked the idea that as we go through life we of express all previous &#039;revisions&#039; of life, starting from an egg and sperm, combining into a single symbiotic cell and then splitting into a multi-cell organism. The embryo then appears to take the form of all our ancestor species as it grows (although I&#039;m not sure biologists would agree with this notion).

Geological strata are definitely a wiki - ice cores are another useful one.

Let&#039;s stretch this to its logical conclusion - the universe is a wiki! Although due to the slight complication of light having a finite speed through space it takes bigger telescopes and longer exposures to see the earlier revisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read recently that junk DNA may just be an inactive archive copy from previous genomes. Maybe a bit more like disk fragmentation than revisions. It may be like the code of some programmers I know, where a function is copied, renamed and tweaked slightly. Repeat for several billion iterations&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always liked the idea that as we go through life we of express all previous &#8216;revisions&#8217; of life, starting from an egg and sperm, combining into a single symbiotic cell and then splitting into a multi-cell organism. The embryo then appears to take the form of all our ancestor species as it grows (although I&#8217;m not sure biologists would agree with this notion).</p>
<p>Geological strata are definitely a wiki &#8211; ice cores are another useful one.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stretch this to its logical conclusion &#8211; the universe is a wiki! Although due to the slight complication of light having a finite speed through space it takes bigger telescopes and longer exposures to see the earlier revisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Foomandoonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foomandoonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re describing is very Google Wave, which is all about wiki-style collaboration. The playback feature lets you quickly see the evolution of the document (who added what, and when). I could totally see it being used in the way you describe.

I still have a few invites left. If you&#039;re interested, shout on Twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re describing is very Google Wave, which is all about wiki-style collaboration. The playback feature lets you quickly see the evolution of the document (who added what, and when). I could totally see it being used in the way you describe.</p>
<p>I still have a few invites left. If you&#8217;re interested, shout on Twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it! Are you talking about generation to generation? That&#039;s a weird one because two &quot;pages&quot; combine, at least when it comes to sexual reproduction as opposed to snailstyle. 

In the lossy stuff, do you mean so-called &quot;junk DNA&quot;? I&#039;m not a geneticist but how do we know it&#039;s redundant? Maybe it&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pastebin&lt;/a&gt; of ancestor history? I don&#039;t know.

On my walk I thought about a pizza as a document with layers of tomato, meat, pepper and finally cheese.

But mostly I thought again about chessboards as documents. Visually, graphically, each move is a board edit. So it&#039;s like a graphical wiki. Obviously you could just store this as notation. You could generate the wiki purely from the list of moves.

Also the layers of a Photoshop (or whatever) graphic are like wiki edits, except instead of history in time it&#039;s the z dimension perpendicular to the screen.

Then I thought about the Earth&#039;s surface as a wiki, with geologically sedimentary layers. Dust, fossils and so on are the edits. I don&#039;t have an analogy for polystrate trees though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it! Are you talking about generation to generation? That&#8217;s a weird one because two &#8220;pages&#8221; combine, at least when it comes to sexual reproduction as opposed to snailstyle. </p>
<p>In the lossy stuff, do you mean so-called &#8220;junk DNA&#8221;? I&#8217;m not a geneticist but how do we know it&#8217;s redundant? Maybe it&#8217;s a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin">pastebin</a> of ancestor history? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>On my walk I thought about a pizza as a document with layers of tomato, meat, pepper and finally cheese.</p>
<p>But mostly I thought again about chessboards as documents. Visually, graphically, each move is a board edit. So it&#8217;s like a graphical wiki. Obviously you could just store this as notation. You could generate the wiki purely from the list of moves.</p>
<p>Also the layers of a Photoshop (or whatever) graphic are like wiki edits, except instead of history in time it&#8217;s the z dimension perpendicular to the screen.</p>
<p>Then I thought about the Earth&#8217;s surface as a wiki, with geologically sedimentary layers. Dust, fossils and so on are the edits. I don&#8217;t have an analogy for polystrate trees though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dafydd Tomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dafydd Tomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DNA has a built-in revision system, although I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s worked out how to parse it yet. And it&#039;s a bit lossy too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNA has a built-in revision system, although I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s worked out how to parse it yet. And it&#8217;s a bit lossy too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah SORRY. I meant the ravages of time. It was a meta-metaphor. You know, like, &quot;time hasn&#039;t been kind to his face&quot;. Time as a byword for all that can go on, which happens to happen through time. Might do a blog post about it.

When I wrote this I realised everything can be seen as a document. EVERYTHING. Who, or rather what, is going to track all the edits? There&#039;s one exception, the ever unedited document, which is of course God. I might need a walk now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah SORRY. I meant the ravages of time. It was a meta-metaphor. You know, like, &#8220;time hasn&#8217;t been kind to his face&#8221;. Time as a byword for all that can go on, which happens to happen through time. Might do a blog post about it.</p>
<p>When I wrote this I realised everything can be seen as a document. EVERYTHING. Who, or rather what, is going to track all the edits? There&#8217;s one exception, the ever unedited document, which is of course God. I might need a walk now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, however - those last two statements seem to contradict one another. Time is a variable. How does it edit your face? If it does, why doesn&#039;t it edit your body as well? 

Surely your face is edited by things that cause your face to change over time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, however &#8211; those last two statements seem to contradict one another. Time is a variable. How does it edit your face? If it does, why doesn&#8217;t it edit your body as well? </p>
<p>Surely your face is edited by things that cause your face to change over time?</p>
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